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So I bought this guitar and received it a few days ago via FedEx. I thought I'd write up a review comparing it to A: The 2007 ESP Eclipse II VB I formally owned (as there seems to be some question regarding the "E-II" quality versus the old "ESP Standard" Quality), and B: the Les Paul Studio I currently own. I had to sell my previous Eclipse back in 2014 (gotta pay the bills, and the band I was in switched to 7 string guitars. It pained me to let that guitar go!), so I'm going from memory on any comparison there. Also I'll address any questions here if I can (although these seem to be questions about options or whatever, heads-up, there are no options, this is the "standard series," you buy it like ya see it, or go to the USA or Custom Shop). 

First Impressions:  The guitar arrived in it's case, and included the parts of the strap locks the affix to the strap (which are very high quality actual Schaller Hardware, the improvement of adding a thumbwheel to the strap part was very nice improvement on Schaller's part), what appears to be a 3mm hex key (no hex screws on the guitar so I'm not sure what that is included for. Probably they go out with every guitar (edit: the allen key is for the strap lock buttons)), a wrench for the truss rod (which is a the traditional type of truss rod nut, as opposed to a 4mm hex nut as seen in many import models), keys for the case, and an ESP Decal. (edit: I didn't think of it at the time, but my guitar was not packed with an ESP Fret Protector. I contacted ESP via Facebook and had one within the week at no charge.)

Out of the box, the guitar is set up perfectly (after sitting at the warehouse of the place I bought it from, and being shipped halfway across the continental USA). The action was set really low without any buzzing, just the way I prefer it. The only thing I found with the setup that was not to my liking was the tailpiece height, which was all the way down to the body. A very easy fix! I was I was able to swap the strings of my choice without making any adjustment besides the tailpiece height (I down-tune a full step so I use slightly thicker strings). The supplied Elixir Strings felt really nice and sounded good for the few minutes I played them. As for the fit and finish, for the most part, the guitar is immaculate in every detail. The frets are nicely rounded and polished nicely. The Ebony Fret Board is quite dark, with only the slightest hints of grain showing in just a couple of places. The inlays look great with only a tiny bit of filler visible on the 1st fret inlay. The only imperfection on the guitar I found was underneath the neck pickup ring, the "Southeast" Screw pulled a very small (1.5mm x 1.5mm) flake of paint up. The flake did not come off the guitar, and is not visible with the pickup ring installed (I removed the neck pickup to inspect the neck joint and the thickness of the maple top... the pickup cavity is painted over with primer, so no data for those could be given). No other imperfection was to be found in the paint or finish of the guitar. The only other gripe I would make is regarding the case: the handle on the case is a bit uncomfortable, and I think the handle on my particular case is damaged, but again only in a minor way, and that probably occurred during shipping and handling. 

Compared to my old 2007 Eclipse II VB: Despite the description of a "satin finish," the finish is identical to the "Vintage Black" finish. Which I'm completely fine with, and this is pretty apparent in just about any picture of a BB model. The new tuners are a bit better that the previous Gotoh Magnum Locks, and the thumbwheels for the locks don't stick out in a garish way like a lot of other locking tuner models. I didn't find the original Magnum Locks to be inconvenient in any way, so don't let that be a deciding factor if you're choosing between one or the other. The biggest difference between the two is probably the neck contour and neck joint. The BB Seems to have a slight offset to the contour which is quite comfortable, whereas the VB neck is more akin to a "60's" neck of a Les Paul. And of course the BB Models' sculpted neck joint makes upper register access extremely easy. As both of the guitars sport the same pickup combination, they sound extremely similar (to the best of my recollection at least). Based on my experience, nothing with regards to the Construction, Materials, or QC changed from my 2007 model to my newest acquisition (I'm not familiar with the ES serials but I'm guessing it was made in 2019). 

Compared to the 2012 Les Paul Studio that I currently own as well, I think the ESP is the superior guitar, however at the same price point as a Les Paul Classic, that is probably not a fair comparison (the ESP is still spec'd better than the LP Classic, which doesnt come with an ebony fretboard as an option, at a 2000$ price tag). I didn't buy the LP new, but it was nearly new when I got it (a friend owned who played it only a handful of times). The LP required a lot more setup work to get going, and I swapped the pickups and tuners out. The ESP hardware is much more modern in it's approach than Gibson (no matter which trim), The ESP is a little bit heavier despite being roughly 1/4" thinner (I think the LP body has pretty extensive chambering), and the ESP has better frets/fretwork. The smaller/low frets on the LP make it kind of buzzy with factory spec'd action (which is virtually the same on just about any single-cut, 24.75" scale length guitar). The buzz was what eventually made me go back to ESP after 6 years. 

 

TL;DR: Its' nice. Buy it. 


Looking at the other questions posted here, I don't see any that I can really answer ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 

 
Carl N.

thank you for the detailed review

ChrisL.

Does ESP offer this guitar with passive pickups option? 

Carl N.

Our models will be offered as shown, no alternative pickup options at the moment

Todd C.

Hello.

I'd like to order another bridge pickup. I know It's the brushed chrome EMG 81. Is there anything else more specific about it for this guitar?

Thanks for any help,

Todd

Todd C.

I know it is a Humbucker as well. It says something about shaft length on the website? 

Todd C.

Do I want the long Les Paul 19mm?

Carl N.

Shaft length would refer to the potentiometer not the pickup, these would use short shaft pots.

William W.

Hi, 

I have this guitar and let me tell you how cool it is. Its so cool Antarctica is jealous. 

It doesn't have the fancy paint but boy does it play metal. My particular guitar is very "clear" i think from the ebony maple combo. 

I want another one and good job gentleman on the work. I haven't touched it barely since arrival a year ago other then change strings and adjust the neck. That's it.  

 

W

Carl N.

Glad you are enjoying it

Danial R.

Wow woah woah woah, you don’t play it every day? SMH man I get it I know what it cost. It’s a fortune to me for sure but I stil pick it up and play it every day or I’d feel guilty of neglect and abuse even. I do have a couple bang around practice guitars that I thrash on but still, must pick up my BB at least once a day. Even if it’s just to wipe it down or put some string ease on it. Probably the nicest thing I’ve ever owned. Seriously- I still put a chrome fiend sticker on the base right under the bridge in the upright position- looks like it was made that way! But hey it’s your dream so you have it however you want it, I can’t see it from my band room anyway- but if I could I’d say “nice! You’ve got excellent taste” -DRED 

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Robbie v.

Are you guys planning an LTD EC-1000 version of this one?

Todd B. ESP

Hi Robbie, We are not planning at this time but thanks for your suggestion. We do appreciate your feedback!

Stephane L.

Thank you again for your response. We have a E-II ECLIPSE BB Purple Sparkle and the fret board/neck is black on it, I see it as black anyway. Is this also dark brown or is it actually black? 

if I can get the E-II Eclipse Black Satin with the same color of fret board/neck as the fret board/neck on my Purple Sparkle I’m buying it? 

So are they the same or different, please advise.   

Carl N.

Stephane, the spec for both is ebony, though no two pieces are ever going to look the same they will typically be the darkest wood available for fingerboards without dying them.  I cannot say whichever instrument you buy will have the darkest fingerboard, it would be best for you to visit a dealer to see them in person before purchase if you are that particular about the color of your fingerboard.

Stephane L.

Thank you for your reply, is there a black satin guitar that has a black fret board/neck?

Carl N.

Hey Stephane, unless artificially dyed there will be no completely black fingerboards.  Most ebony is the darkest shade of brown, though they do look black in most lighting.

Stephane L.

What colour is the fret board/neck, black or dark brown?

Carl N.

Hey Stephane, this will be ebony, so a very dark brown.

RAFAEL C.

hello, which is better between the E-II ECLIPSE BB and the E-II ECLIPSE EVERTUNE models

Carl N.

Hey Rafael, either instrument will be of the same quality so it'll depend on the individual player's preferences as to which instrument they would be more comfortable with.

Eugene S.

Hello! I'm searching for exactly this model (or as close as possible) with written ESP logo on the headstock. Could you please help me find the name of that one? Is that one PL ? Also if you can point out the key differences of this model to it's ESP Eclipse Standard equivalent (if it exists). It's an absolute dream guitar, and I can't wait to find it and eventually purchase one. Cheers \m/

Carl N.

Hey Eugene, the E-II line replaced the ESP standard line of previous years.  They're the same instruments with the exception of the logo.  If you wanted one like this with an ESP logo you would have to place an order through the custom shop, though this would increase the price quite a bit.  You can visit your local ESP dealer in order to submit a custom request for a quote.

ScottyJ-Rocker

Any chance this guitar could be offered with a Chrome Evertune and Stainless Steel Frets in the future? 

Love the 22 frets (instead of 24) 

Seymour Duncan options would be great too!! 

Todd B. ESP

Hi Scotty-J, We will note your request and thank you for giving us your feedback. At this time there is no plan for this exact model but we hope that we can offer more variety of models suited for you and other players in the future. I do like your ideas!

ScottyJ-Rocker

Thanks for the reply!

I think there are a lot of musicians out there that rock out with the more "classic" instruments like the "G" style and "F" style and are used to 22 frets, but also would like to stay in tune with the Evertune bridge. 

I retrofit my ESP-LTD EC-401VF with an Evertune about 4-5 years ago and it's my #1 gigging guitar. I put a P-90 in the middle so I can split the bridge and turn on the P-90 for more Mark Knopfler, David Gilmour and funk tones when I need them. I also put Stainless Steel Frets on this guitar. I absolutely love it!

I love a lot of metal bands too but, for my own guitars I like the more classic and vintage looks and vibe... More like The Allman Brothers Band, Clapton. Frampton, Beck, Page, Billy Gibbons, Angus Young and many others!

Just not crazy about the black hardware. 

I'm sure there are other musicians out there that love ESP, but would like a more vintage look than a black hardware heavy metal look. Thanks for listening to the feedback and ideas! Rock on! - Scotty J. 

Todd B. ESP

Hey Scotty J-Rocker, Wow, lots of great info, thanks for sharing your photo and mods performed on your EC-401VF. That's very cool. Have you tried any of our current Eclipse series with Evertune? I'm curious which version you like the feel of (the current EC-1000ET has an "F" Evertune bridge which sits lower to the body). All great feedback, thanks again for sharing.

ScottyJ-Rocker

Hey Todd. Thanks.

I did try the LTD EC-1000. I even bought one. I sold it though. It was the black one with 24 frets with chrome hardware. To be honest, I really wanted the 22 frets and the EC-1000 also felt a bit heavier than my EC-401VF. It was the model before the access heel was added. I did like the "F" style, factory installed chrome Evertune.

I don't mind the "G" style Evertune. My hand rests great on that bridge. I do think that the "F" style factory installed Evertune looks better. 

I wish I had bought the Honeyburst LTD you had with Sweetwater a few years back. I just love the darker Tobacco Burst or Gloss Black better. I still should have bought the Honeyburst with 22 frets! lol 

I hope you guys offer some of these options in the future for musicians who like the playability and modern appointments of the ESP guitars, but like a more 'vintage' look and feel. (22 Frets, Sunburst options, Chrome Hardware, Seymour Duncan or DiMarzio pickups etc...) Stainless Steel frets are great! 

Thanks for listening to the feedback of a gigging musician. That's what I love about ESP/LTD guitars. 

Todd B. ESP

Hey Scotty J, I couldn't ask for much better feedback. Thank you for all your points (which you make a lot of good ones). We appreciate hearing from working musicians like you! Hope we can keep coming out with models that you could consider gigging with in the future.

ScottyJ-Rocker

Thanks Todd! I've been gigging with ESP / LTD guitars for 9 years now. Since 2010. Thanks so much! 

Todd B. ESP

Hey Scotty J, Great to hear that. Thank you too!!

Max M.

Could this one be available in left handed

Todd B. ESP

Hi Max, this is not available in left handed version, but if you are in the US you can contact Xtreme Lefty. They may be able to special order this one.

Here is our dealer locator: https://www.espguitars.com/dealers

Preston S.

Any E-ll Eclipses with Floyd Roses in the future?

Todd B. ESP

Hi Preston, There are currently no plans but it's possible we will offer an ECLIPSE FR in the future. Thanks for letting us know what you're interested in.

EM

Hello,

 

I was wondering if anyone can tell me the differences between this (Black Satin BB) vs the Vintage Black DB. I understand that the DB is double bound with gold hardware but I also see that the the neck on the DB is set neck where as this one is Set-Thru.  Is there a tonal difference between these two models?

Also, is this model (or DB version) available in the full thickness?

 

Thanks!

 

EM

Todd B. ESP

Hi EM, The differences are mostly visual. the binding on the Black Satin model is painted on (Bold BInding) with silver over the regular binding. It does not have binding on the back of body. And it has a set thru neck heel which has a smooth "neck thru" feel. THe Vintage Black is set neck with a traditional heel and binding on the back of body as well. Other than that they are basically the same spec. Sound shouldn't be any different.  These are not available in the Full Thickness version. Currently the only Full Thickness model is the Flame Maple top Eclipse with Black Natural Burst.

EM

Thanks for the reply Todd!

Todd B. ESP

Sure!

MiKL .M

Seems like there are several models of the Black Satin version. One with chrome hardware and one with black hardware. I've ordered a chrome one in december, just received a black hardware one.. Is there any chance to get the good one soon ?

Best regards

Todd B. ESP

Hi MiKL, not sure what your question is here. Please contact your dealer or our sales department (whoever you purchased your guitar from). They should be able to help you. This model is coming with chrome hardware.

MiKL .M

Hi Todd. Already done that while received my full black hardware one.. thus wondering where does this model come from. Nevertheless, sounds like a Japan model only
https://espguitars.co.jp/product/5753/

vs

https://espguitars.co.jp/product/6746/

Ordered the first one but received the second one.. without even doubting that the second doesn't even exist on espguitars.com... sad :(

The part numbering is quite confusing but anyway, I have to wait for another couple of month the get the right one.. and my local dealer can't do anything between the importer and ESP japan.

Todd B. ESP

Hi MiKL, Thanks for sending more details. After checking into this, we did used to sell an E-II ECLIPSE BLKS w/ EMG and Black hardware. That model was discontinued from our line 2 years ago. So it looks like you purchased that model which is not currently on our site.

The current model we sell is the E-II ECLIPSE BB (Bold Binding) BLKS w/ EMG and Chrome hardware. I'm not sure you purchased it from, can you let us know? It's possible that the dealer listed the wrong model or picture and that's why you got the wrong model. Either way, hope you can get the one you wanted although I know it's a bummer to have to wait for it.

Alex O.

Would be wonderful to have a LTD version of this stunning guitar.  

Todd B. ESP

Hey Alex, thanks for your suggestion and glad you like it.

sensei

i like the black and white sort of motif that no other ec that i've seen has

Alex O.

This might be the most good-looking ESP Eclipse of all. 

Todd B. ESP

Thanks Alex!

Peter F.

Bought one of these was my dream guitar .Happy with sound however the set up was terrible fret buzz all over .Had to pay a guitar tech to sort it out he advised the truss Rd was loose and intonation was out.Not good for such an expensive guitar .Send two emails to ESP and the distribution.Distribution were not interested Esp didn’t reply at all . 

Todd B. ESP

Hey Peter, Sorry to hear you had a bad experience. Please contact our customer service if you should need further assistance. customerservice@espguitars.com 

Frederick C.

I want this! I'll get this when I can legitimately afford one. 

Todd B. ESP

Hi Frederick C, Thanks, we hope so!

matt g.

can this model be ordered in dark purple satin and if so at what extra charge. Also why is this eclipse model the only 1 with a 3 piece neck instead of a 1 piece neck

Todd B. ESP

Hi matt, we cannot special order a different color on a production model. you can order a custom shop guitar any way you would like but the pricing is usually 2-3 times the price of a production model.

matt g.

I think esp should definitely consider doing a production of the dark purple satin like james hetfields  guitar. 

Todd B. ESP

Hi Matt, Thanks for your suggestion.